“What our guys were when they went into October, that’s what they still are,” Cashman told a large contingent of reporters, including about 30 journalists from Japan, at an O’Hare Airport hotel. “Regardless of how good or how poorly they played in October.”
Cashman added: “Over the last number of years, we’ve tried to improve over how we go about our decision-making. Part of that is sample size. I think you look at the broader perspective of what someone’s abilities are.
“Jerry Hairston, if he hit .700 over the World Series, it doesn’t mean he’d get an A-Rod contract. We’re thankful for the guys who did what they did, and if you had a great postseason, terrific. If you had a poor postseason, … Mark Teixeira was a great Yankee (who had a poor postseason). It doesn’t change our evaluation of Mark Teixeira. It is what it is.”
What a long way we’ve come since our origins in 2005. We would have paid money for Yankees’ leadership to talk like this back then, now it’s commonplace.
Not only should playoff performance not be taken into consideration when examining trade targets, free agent decisions, and contract negotiations, but neither should nostalgia or history. If a player, no matter how good his Yankee career may have been, no longer fits the goals of the team, then he should be let go.
In our opinion, the #1 goal of the 2009 offseason should be for the Yankees to get younger. I’m not sure if we truly appreciate how fortunate the Yankees were to be relatively injury- and decline-free in the 2009 season, despite having 5 of their regular hitters age 34 and above. You even had AJ Burnett throw 200 innings and Andy Pettitte be above league-average at the tender age of 37. Talk about best case scenario.
Point is that the front office shouldn’t bank on all this happening again, and should take steps to get in front of these issues.

Brian Cashman sitting in the lobby of his Chicago hotel at the GM meetings.



32 Comments
george November 9, 2009 23:10
good thing this ageist ideology didn’t cause the Yanks to arbitrarily dump those youngsters David Wells, Clemens, Cone, El Duque, Paul O’Neill, Straw, etc. from the dynasty teams.
Jason O. November 9, 2009 23:56
I’m torn on this one george, but nomaas is correct here: Girardi is going to need to the rotate the DH slot throughout 2010 to keep Jeter, Alex and Jorge fresh, and add Damon to that mix if they bring him back. Matsui is a 100% DH at this point in his career and he clogs the DH spot.
Kevin S. November 10, 2009 00:33
The one exception to the ‘get younger’ mantra would be bringing in someone like Mike Cameron on a one-year deal. He’s still good, and he provides a buffer as A-Jax transitions into his rightful place. Plus, anything that sends Melky to the pine is good by me. No more multi-year deals for players already on the wrong side of thirty, though.
Mo Wang November 10, 2009 02:24
They need to have a regular DH next year. You better have one hell of a bench if you expect that DH rotation idea to work.
Kevin S. November 10, 2009 03:26
Or a capable super-utility player. Also, if they bring back Damon, he and Posada will probably be the primary DHs, with A-Rod and Jeter getting a day here and there. In that event, the sub is essentially a platoon between Brett Gardner (when Damon DHs) and Cervelli (when Posada DHs). I’m comfortable with that.
swedski November 10, 2009 06:38
Agree with the idea here but its hard to lose Matsui’s bat. All three are a tough call due to the fact they have consistantly produced and are capable. The trick is also to know when to cash(man) it in on them. The market might have a lot to say about what Cashman does.
Oh by the way Kevin stop Melky bashing. Not a bad year for a 25 year old .274 13 68 154 games steady D and some big clutch hitting during the season. He was also one of the only Yanks besides the big guns who had a consistent playoff run .271 some big hits.
Massapequa Parking November 10, 2009 07:02
Let me get this straight: As part of the strategy of not entering into big contracts with guys on the wrong side of 34.5, the Yankees are going to part ways with Damon &/or Matsui in order to preserve ABs for the lesser option, Jorge Posada, and the overcommitment to him on the other side of 34.5!?
C-Bear November 10, 2009 07:28
Maybe not get younger, but get young-ish. Only a couple of players need to be replaced by some youth. Switch Damon for A-Jax and the team looks a lot younger already.
Frederick the Elephant November 10, 2009 08:24
Picture of Cashman is badass.
GSB November 10, 2009 08:42
I truly hope that everyone here realizes that Mariano never enters into this discussion. This discussion is about aging men, not robots or gods or god-robots. Mo is, obviously, not human.
skobak November 10, 2009 08:55
this is why, once again, they shouldn’t dangle Cano. That and he’s my favorite player. He’s dropped a few hints that they’re not going to keep Damon. Other brass said they might consider keeping Matsui, probably because Matsui brings in the Yen
Frederick the Elephant November 10, 2009 08:58
Dump Matsui and Damon…go get Holliday.
BklynJT November 10, 2009 09:22
Dead that holliday idea. Sign Damon back for 1 year or 2 and bring back a big bat who can play the field. We can’t just use the DH spot as a rotating rest spot, that significantly weakens our lineup. It needs to be filled by a big bat who can also play the field occasionally. Adam Dunn-ish type player.
Anthony November 10, 2009 09:35
If by clogging up the DH spot, you mean saving our season both in the second half and the postseason, then, yes, Matsui really clogged up that DH spot.
Matsui’s bat is not easily replaced and he’s probably not going to demand a huge contract and maybe not even more than one year. Bring him back and let Damon go, who will get a big deal from someone plus at least two-three years. Promote Austin Jackson and give him a shot in left. Next year is a freebie and the Yankees should use it to break in some youngsters.
Frederick the Elephant November 10, 2009 09:36
Jackson is not ready, at all.
Steve F. November 10, 2009 10:55
I’m so glad this line of thinking apparently won out. So many stupid and arrogant decisions made by stupid and arrogant men paved the way for our championship drought this past decade. I’m so grateful Cashman kept his job and has the kind of influence he does.
Thurman November 10, 2009 11:14
Matsui has a very solid bat and production as does Damon. I do like the idea of rotating people at DH to give rest some of the regulars. However, I think both should be back cause nothing is a guarantee. Look at what happened with Nady, someone is bound to get hurt and that’s when Melky or Gardner gets more playing time. The Yanks can afford both players on 1 yr contracts. Plus Holliday didn’t look too good in the AL even though he’d definitely benefit from hitting in our lineup.
skobak November 10, 2009 11:48
holliday is the second most overrated player on the market. by moving damon to type a, he became the first. hope the roid sux get holliday for jd drew money and he gives them jd drew production (sans the 2007 post season production, of course). pettite should be a priority for the yankee brass. yanks also need a solid fourth starter because either joba or hughes needs to stay in the bullpen.
T-Bone November 10, 2009 12:20
I know the die-hards are going to hate me for saying this, but the biggest reason there is a DH clog is Posada. That 4 yr contract is going to handcuff them. Number one, I don’t think at age 38, turning 39 in August 2010, he can keep catching full time at an .885 OPS clip. Number two, you would like to move him to DH and let Cervelli take on more work behind the dish, let Molina go, Cervelli can handle the workload Molina has done, plus he’s cheaper. Also, I would keep Matsui or Damon at DH over Posada, because they bring more to the table at 3 yrs younger than Jorge. Not to mention, they both have better numbers in the post season than Jorge, look it up! Let’s face it, they can’t bring back both Matsui and Damon, because Posada is the problem. I also agree we must get younger, Damon isn’t a lock to play in 150 games in LF anymore, we need a young defensive minded outfielder, doesn’t have to rake like Damon, but close, then bring up A-Jax, only if he is ready.
BigCash November 10, 2009 12:56
Damon is the better player right now and more versitle. Mastsui should only stay if he is willing to take a play cut and play part time. Need to get one more OF and sign Pettite and we’re good. Holiday is a bum. Can’t play D to save his life. Damon is better. Can’t go into next year with Damon/Caberra/Swisher in OF. Too many question marks.
Frederick the Elephant November 10, 2009 13:06
Holliday can’t play defense to save his life? That’s one of the most retarded things I’ve seen.
Jason O November 10, 2009 14:03
If Matsui is willing to accept 1 year deal (off the top of my head something like 3m-5m) commensurate with his late career, question mark status (think Abreu with Angels ’09) then sign him and NYY doesn’t have a massively overpaid DH/PH.
Keeping the Yen rolling in (as was said above) is an important consideration.
Frederick the Elephant November 10, 2009 15:43
People do realize that any merchandize bought by Japanese people has be shared with the rest of baseball, right?. Bringing in Yen is a ridiculous argument.
Sean November 10, 2009 17:49
swedski: Melky was also the only player in the lineup to finish with an OPS+ below league-average (though just barely, at 99). He’s a slower version of Brett Gardner and should demand a slightly more lucrative contract, being that he’s arbitration eligible. Granted, Gardner was slightly worse offensively, but he does have game-changing speed (pardon the cilche), and – believe it or not – he’s the superior defender. I’d take some combination of Gardner and A-Jax over Melky for 2010.
Sean November 10, 2009 18:00
BigCash: “Versatile” is a generous word as applied to Damon. He is a HORRENDOUS fielder with a terrible harm; the only reason he’s still in left field is because Matsui’s even worse. I’m not a big fan of giving Holliday a big-money, long-term deal, but his fielding woes aside, he would definitely be a defensive upgrade over Damon. That’s how bad Damon is.
Damon: -3.7 RngR, -12.1 UZR/150
Holliday: 7.8 RngR, 6 UZR/150
Kevin S. November 10, 2009 18:51
I love the irony of people mentioning Melky and Jorge’s postseason stats in a post praising Cashman for not judging players on their postseason performances.
Jason November 10, 2009 23:33
Jason O. – Matsui at one year for 3-5M? How could you possibly justify that.
35 year olds who just put up a 131 OPS+ don’t do that.
Look for Matsui’s AAV to be the same if he is re-signed.
swedski November 11, 2009 02:29
Sean: Gardner couldn’t reach a little league home run fench. Melky is not the be all or end all, but he is progressing AND the Yanks won a World Series with him primarily in center for the year, He can also play left and right while Gardner is mainly Center and sometimes left. I’d like the Yanks to give him a chance and maybe he’ll devlop even more. I don’t see Gardner as more than a role player. I like him and think he would be great as the fourth outfielder, speed and good d.
Its an interesting discussion and I am glad that FINALLY there are some young players to talk about instead of just old re-treads who you don’t know what you are going to get year to year. With A-Jax coming along this is only going to get more intriqing
george November 11, 2009 21:13
in 2010, to best defend a championship, I don’t see how the Yanks are gonna improve on the #2 & #5 spots in the order.
Especially considering how Matsui kills lefties, and how Damon is so…Damonesque.
Jeter
Damon
Tex
A-Rod
Matsui
Posada
Swisher
Cano
Melky/Gardner
Chip November 12, 2009 02:29
Re-sign Pettite for probably about 10M, sign Damon and Cameron for one year apiece (if possible) to patrol the outfield. Let Matsui go. That gives you an everyday lineup of
Jeter SS
Damon DH
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Posada C
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cameron CF
Melky LF
with that lineup, you lose a bit of offense over last year’s squad but get a HUGE bump in outfield defense. Cameron (10.3 UZR/150 in 2009) and Melky (career 4.0 UZR/150 in LF). Or you could use Gardner in that spot and have absolutely ludicrous outfield defense with a ton of speed in the lineup in Cameron/Gardner/Jeter/Damon. When Posada rests, you put Cervelli in, Damon in left and really don’t lose much offense.
Cuban Bee November 12, 2009 15:36
I can’t believe no one has mentioned the possibility of adding Chone Figgins this offseason to make the rotating DH idea work – have A-rod DH and throw figgins at 3rd, have Jeter DH and throw him at short, have Damon DH and throw him in left – I like that option quite a bit…
Kevin S. November 13, 2009 01:24
Chone Figgins:
Career innings at shortstop – 150.2
Last time playing outfield – 2006
The guy’s proven to be a quality defensive third baseman, but given how little time he’ll actually spend there, the years he’ll require starting in his age-32 season and his defensive question marks where he’ll get the bulk of his playing make me very leery of him.