Comments on: Getting younger

By: Brad Wesley

Brad Wesley — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:23:10 +0000

Andrew – I never said you have to watch him or anyone everyday to know he was a threat. Ruth was a force every at bat. I never saw him play. But I can assure you that when you go the hall of fame – Rice will be there and Dwight won’t.

Also writers who have the ballots in their hands, not the fans, do see many players from different teams play in their prime on many occasions That’s why they have the ballot and not the bias fans.

Those writers have voted for Jim Rice as a hall of famer. You just deal with that and go back to bed. Actually Dwight will be at the hall of fame…selling Jim Rice’s autograph, and dented hoods and broken windshields from all the cars his bashed outside fenway park.

Dwight fell off the ballot in 1999 after three tries. Yikes!

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:34:57 +0000

Brad, do you realize the logic fail that occurs when one suggests that one has to see a player play ever day in order to appreciate his contributions? If that’s the requirement, then no-one can ever know how good players are–you watch Rice everday, but cannot know how good anyone on another team is, because you don’t watch them everyday. At the end of a career, all that you would be able to determine is who was the best Red Sox player. (and by the way, Dwight was the best player of that era.)

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By: Voomo Zanzibar

Voomo Zanzibar — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:50:38 +0000

ok, someone help me out here.
For the last week i have been proposing that we go after Hanley Ramirez. He’s a FA after 2011, so SOMEBODY is going to get him sooner than later.

FACT: the left side of our infield is older than younger, and these dudes got 324 plate appearances last year:
Angel Berroa: .136 .174 .182 .356
Cody Ransom: .190 .256 .329 .585
Ramiro Pena: .287 .317 .383 .699
Jerry Hairston:.237 .352 .382 .733

We stick Hanley in LF for 50 games, let him play SS for 50 and 3B for 50 while Alex, Derek, and Jorge split DH.

Brilliant, i would say.
Agreed?

Only problem is (and, admittedly, it is a significant problem) how do we get him? Florida has no third baseman or heir apparent to HR. And out best SS prospect (Nunez) is a couple years away.

So what do you think?
How do we create a three (or four) team trade to get at Hanley?
Yunel Escobar? Elvis Andrus? Seriously. Why wait two years? How do we get that mofo Right Now?

(Imagine a 2011 lineup with Hanley, Grandy, Gardner, and Carl Crawford! And we coax Rickey out of retirement to pinch run for the fatsos!)

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By: Are The Yankees Actually Getting Younger? | Bronx Baseball Daily

Are The Yankees Actually Getting Younger? | Bronx Baseball Daily — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:59:43 +0000

[...] three days ago (on December 29th), NoMaas.org made this post about the Yankee organizational philosophy under the full control of Brian [...]

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By: dave

dave — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:53:42 +0000

“The point isn’t that the Yankees traded away all their young talent, it’s that they stopped bringing in new young talent. That’s the point.”

Ok, but one of the three quotes is directly related to trading players, and one of the other two is about developing young players.

So my question is, who did we trade during that time period that we shouldn’t have… and who did we not develop?

I concede the point that the people we were trading FOR were old dogs, and we should have brought in more talent in their prime.

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By: phil

phil — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:39:09 +0000

Call me crazy, but seeing as the Yankees never had Mark Prior in their system (drafted by Cubs in 2001 & made his debut for them in May), it would have been pretty hard for them to trade him. They drafted him in 98 but he didn’t sign.

It doesn’t matter who they traded. They won titles & the ends justify the means. Nobody would criticize Smoltz going to Atlanta had Detroit won the title. Prospects are just that. No one knew Smoltz would be a HOF-er. Do you think the Expos thought Randy Johnson (with his at the time 10-17 career record with a 6.00 ERA) would turn out to be what he did? No.

28 next year says:
December 29, 2009 at 9:27 pm

…Mark Prior, without Dusty could have been good for a while….

That is all I can think of off the top of my head but I know I am missing a lot of obvious ones but that is because I didn’t follow those types of things till a few years ago.

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By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:23:22 +0000

Brad- Rice was such a clear Hall of Famer that he got voted in in his last year of eligibility. Give me a break. Dwight Evans was better.

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By: Brad Wesley

Brad Wesley — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:49:04 +0000

Butcher you butchered the context.

I didn’t say Rice was better – I said it’s like 30 years from now saying Manny is not a hall of famer. A whole host of writers who will be writing will have not seen him play.

Rice was a clear hall of famer – so clear that he is enshrined in the Hall. In fact, Manny most likely will be designated to the steroid wing of the hall. Which means, he will not be voted in first ballot as a “punishment” for “cheating” the game.

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By: stevie b

stevie b — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:05:48 +0000

nomaas is the king.

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By: JGS

JGS — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:27:13 +0000

Manny >>>>>>>>>>> Rice

also, 1991 and 2001 WS >> 1975 WS

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