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The Mother of All Interviews: NoMaas v. Brian Cashman

Tuesday, February 16, 2010 at 8:08 pm by SJK

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Oh no, we didn't. Yes, we did. NoMaas. Ca$hMoney. Together.

NoMaas' Sensei John Kreese sits down with Yankees' General Manager Brian Cashman for an exclusive 1-on-1 conversation about...well, EVERYTHING.

SJK: Since you were given full authority over baseball decisions after the 2005 season, how do you believe the organization has changed -- whether it be fiscally, philosophically, or in methodology?

CASH: I think we've changed in all aspects. There were a lot of people before involved in the decision-making process and now that's more defined. I felt like we were the Roman Empire where our operations were stretched far and wide. We weren't king of the hill in player development, king of the hill in amateur scouting, king of the hill on the major league side, king of the hill on the international side…we weren't maximizing our resources at any level. We had department heads making decisions for other departments that weren't their responsibility. Now, I have localized each department to their specific area and maximized their expertise in those areas for the greater good of the organization as a whole.

Draft day, for example, has become critically important to us again. They're vital to success and I'm proud to say that some of our recent draftees were part of a world championship team this year.

SJK: Between players graduating to the big leagues and recent trades, the minor league system is thinner than it has been in recent years. Would you agree with that assessment and what is your strategy for re-stocking? Do you anticipate having an increased budget for the draft and IFAs?

CASH: Yes, the minor league system is thinner. I traded nine to eleven prospects this offseason, but that is what the system is there for. You can utilize homegrown talent for yourself or you can use it to get what you want. And that can keep you out of the free agent market, because you have to overpay in the free agent market. Having a farm system allows you to acquire talent in the most cost-efficient way. We're always asking for more money for drafts and IFAs, but our budgets are at the highest level and that's likely where they'll stay. It's hard to increase budgets in this type of economy.

SJK: Speaking of the budget, whenever the Yankees win, the payroll police comes out and says that any GM could win with those financial resources. Does that ever get at you?

CASH: Does it bother me? Yes. But, we're proud to say we have the most successful baseball company in the world, maybe even the most successful sports organization in the world. We have a great business model. We have a tremendous brand. We've increased our attendance, first breaking the 3,000,000 barrier, now we draw 4,000,000. We have a new stadium. Our owner built us up to this and it's fantastic.

SJK: Among some pockets of Yankee fans, you've developed a reputation as a ninja, silently stalking your victim and then out of nowhere slaying him with a flying star. In other words, you have a reputation of making acquisitions without them receiving much publicity before they happen, i.e Mark Teixeira. Do you make it a point that your front office keeps negotiations private? Do you feel that gives you an advantage?

CASH: One of the things that has taken place is that we've streamlined our process. When it comes to major league acquisitions, I work with our pro scouting department and only include others when the circumstances warrant. By doing that, I limit leaks. I control what I'm working on and it's less likely to get out. And it works to our advantage. Because if people read or hear the Yankees are looking at someone, they'll take a look too. That's what I do. If a club is in on a guy, you take a second or third look. I don't want to get anyone else's attention when I'm working on something.

SJK: Over the last few years, it seems like the Yankees are becoming less inclined to pay players based on nostalgia and public opinion. For example, early in this offseason you said Hideki Matsui's World Series MVP wouldn't be a factor in your valuation of him. How has the decision-making process changed?

CASH: I will say that I've been educated about sample sizes and the true value of a player's abilities. If a player has a hot week in October, I don't think that necessarily gives you an idea of his abilities.

SJK: On to the 5th starter competition -- Joba Chamberlain lost significant juice on his fastball last year, in some estimates over 2 mph. How concerned are you about that and is that something which will weigh into your decision about who becomes the 5th starter?

CASH: Performance will dictate. He was inconsistent last year. He has completed his development program. May the best man win.

SJK: But, speaking of what you just said about sample sizes, how can you make a decision based on Spring Training?

CASH: You are forced to make those types of decisions. You take into account their prior history, but really no one is coming in with an edge. We'll see what we see. Maybe someone shows up out of shape or pulls a hamstring, that helps make a decision. Maybe someone is throwing ball better than someone else.

SJK: Will Phil Hughes' reported innings limits factor into the 5th starter competition?

CASH: No, it will not be a factor on his chances of becoming 5th starter. We will mandate what his innings limits will be and Joe Girardi and Dave Eiland will have full authority on how they would manage those innings - just like last year with Joba. They could truncate it at the beginning, it doesn't matter me. It only matters to me if they exceed their limits.

SJK: Is the loser of the Hughes/Joba battle going to be permanently placed in the bullpen or is this just a 1-year situation?

CASH: There is no permanent anything. Your team has to be flexible. The great thing is we have guys who have the ability to both go in the bullpen and start. If somebody gets hurt, somebody's performance suffers...Chad Gaudin can start and relieve, Sergio Mitre can start and relieve, Aceves can start and relieve, Hughes and Joba can start and relieve. These guys have the ability to succeed at both ends, some more than others.

SJK: Why were you willing to give up Austin Jackson for Curtis Granderson?

CASH: Granderson is a "now player." What Granderson is currently doing in the big leagues, we didn't necessarily project for Austin Jackson. We thought Jackson would be an above-average everyday player. Did we see 30 HR potential? Not necessarily. It's easier to bet on Granderson than the projections of what Jackson may or will do. If Granderson was on a $100 million contract, I wouldn't have made the trade. He's on a good contract. But there is risk, Austin Jackson has a lot of talent and it could all come together sooner than you think.

SJK: If the season were starting tomorrow, who would be your starting CF?

CASH: Curtis Granderson. But if Gardner proves our team is better with him in CF and he can be an everyday outfielder…he has a lot to show in a short amount of time in Spring Training. We believe he is better in CF and we believe Granderson would be terrific in LF. But, Granderson was acquired to be our everyday CF and that is our expectation.

SJK: When God created OBP, did he also create Nick Johnson?

CASH: Well, he would be in that category. I just hope for good health, because if he's healthy the numbers will be there.

SJK: Speaking of health, while you have done a great job lowering the average age of the team, you still have a group of core players who are old in athletic terms. Not only did these older players display excellent durability last season, but they also showed little signs of performance decline, if at all. How concerned are you about their durability this season and do you expect these players to continue to defy their ages?

CASH: You can't expect that, because at some point, the music is going to stop. They'll be looking for a chair to sit in and there will be no chair. Like anything else, athletes are on borrowed time. But, for us, there have been no indication that this is upon us.

SJK: Why do you believe these players have been able to perform at these high levels despite their advancing age?

CASH: I think it's their commitment to excellence, it's our manager and training staff, our strength and conditioning staff…and I think it's luck too.

SJK: During the offseason you stated that you wanted a right-handed OF on the bench to hit LHP, which is understandable considering Granderson's track record versus lefties and that Brett Gardner is not yet proven. We advocated for Reed Johnson who is better against left-handed pitching than both Randy Winn and Marcus Thames. Why did you move in another direction?

CASH: We looked at Reed Johnson quite a bit. He's a tremendous player. He smashes left-handed pitching. But he has had health issues.

This is how I looked at it. I just traded Melky Cabrera, I just traded Austin Jackson, I don't have much outfield depth in the farm system…so my 4th outfielder has to have a history of playing full seasons. I need an everyday guy. My outfield depth is an area of weakness. I need someone my manager can turn to.

Randy Winn didn't hit left-handed pitching this past season, but he has in previous seasons. He can play all the all the outfield positions, he can pinch hit, pinch run, steal a base for you....he gives you better coverage for our lack of outfield depth.

Reed Johnson plays like Brett Gardner. He plays hard. He plays really hard. He has make up. He has tenacity. Everything I want. He gets after it extremely hard, but I can't afford any health issues with our lack of depth.

I really wrestled with some of these decisions, more so on the smaller ones than the bigger ones. But I have to give my manager more coverage. If someone gets hurt, I'll be happy we have Randy Winn there.

SJK: We also would have liked Eric Hinske to return, as it's uncommon to have a player of his quality on your bench. Was their an effort made to re-sign him?

CASH: He just didn't fit. We're left-handed dominant. And we have Juan Miranda if we wanted to go down that path.

SJK: Do you think we'll see Jesus Montero in the Boogie Down at some point in the season?

CASH: I don't see him in the Bronx this season. He needs to take his next step in the process.

SJK: Do you think his future is behind the plate?

CASH: We hope so. His value is highest as a catcher. His bat will find a way into the middle of the lineup, that's without a doubt. Whether he stays behind the plate, is a first baseman, a rightfielder, a DH - that remains to be seen. But he's got one of the best throwing arms in the minors, he's got some of the best blocking…he's just so big, mechanically he takes a lot longer in his release. That's an area he needs to shorten up.

SJK: Is it true that you drive a car with a huge "Cashmoney" decal on the back window?

CASH: No, it's not true.

SJK: Lastly, have you ever challenged an opposing GM to a rap battle?

CASH: No, but a number of my friends know what I listen to. When we're at the GM meetings hanging out or talking trades, I take out my Ipod and play some pretty good stuff.

Much appreciation to Brian for taking the time to speak with NoMaas. It was a real treat getting to talk to him and we hope all of you enjoyed the interview. Big ups to C-Money.

*Props to Louis Winthrope III (video) and everyone else on the NoMaas staff for also contributing to this interview.

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94 Responses to “The Mother of All Interviews: NoMaas v. Brian Cashman”

  1. pollo says:

    Pete Abe suiciding. Nomaas :bow

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  2. A-Bomb says:

    Oh my god… Nomaas + Ca$hmoney = win! I can’t believe you guys pulled this off!!!

    Anyway, nice to see the guy knows the hell what he’s talking about. He obviously reads NoMaas. Still would have liked him to sign Reed Johnson.

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  3. A-Bomb says:

    Isn’t it ironic when you guys started this blog, you bashed the front office and their handling of this team. 5 years later, you are talking to the General Manager of the Yankees discussing his great handling of the team. Major props to Sensei and the crew.

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  4. pollo says:

    BTW great fucking job. This is probably hands down the best Cashmoney interview. Ever.

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  5. Sergio Mitre says:

    he mentioned me by name!! did you see that????!!! I knew he liked me :)

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  6. Milo says:

    Amazing.

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  7. Nasty Nate says:

    That was outstanding.

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  8. That was awesome. Sweet read.

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  9. the real T.O. says:

    The best interview with Cash that I’ve ever read.
    Kudos, nomaas.

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  10. Praveen says:

    Great Interview

    Alot of interesting info their

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  11. Steve S. says:

    Best

    Interview

    EVER!!!!

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  12. Bud says:

    That’s why this blog is the best going

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  13. Bruce says:

    Bravo, Sensei. Bravo.

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  14. Rey22 says:

    Very impressive. I enjoyed this interview very much. Way more than some formal interview with a reporter.

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  15. Kyle says:

    Great interview. Nice fucking work! He sort of made me understand about Winn. At least I can see the logic in it now. Before it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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  16. Kei Igawa says:

    Ca$hmoney-san, drop my name on your next single man, I gots mo’ bentley’s than any sucka up in the SWB.

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  17. Fat Pete says:

    Theo is better.

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  18. The Russian Judge says:

    In a sea of Yankee blogs, NoMaas is the king.

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  19. Kill.schill(ing) says:

    Welcome, you’re now officially part of the same media establishment you once derided. Let’s see how far you crawl up your cult hero’s ass to preserve your access.

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  20. Davey says:

    awesome. awesome. awesome. congratulations nomaas

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  21. Interested Reader says:

    No offense, “Sensei” but you won’t even use your real first name on the interviews you conduct. Yet you are presented as some sort of professional. What credentials do you have?

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  22. Steve says:

    I’m not a Yankee fan but I am very impressed with Brian Cashman and the job he does to make the Yankees successful. I would love to see the Minnesota Twins win another World Series but the Yankees sure make it hard on a fan like me. May the best team win and may the best GM get the accolades.

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  23. Evilest Empire says:

    “Interested Reader” is a tool. He’s a fucking internet sports blogger. Who gives a shit what his other credentials are? SJK is a guy who got an interview with Brian Cashman and asked poignant questions, that’s who he is.

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  24. chase says:

    Amazing work. Great job, guys.

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  25. JohnF says:

    Evilest Empire:

    Interested Reader was a joke reference to Pete Abraham.

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  26. Crunk says:

    nomaas = God of websites

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  27. ckm says:

    Holy shit yes

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  28. bartonbickle says:

    this made my day

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  29. Sean says:

    I am having a terrible, terrible night. This interview just upgraded it to only terrible (x1). Great questions with some refreshingly forthright answers from the man himself.

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  30. BBall says:

    I cant believe someone just asked “What credentials do you have?” Im really hoping that was just sarcasm or a jealous blogger. The interview speaks for itself.

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  31. JasonO says:

    Clearly, Cashman understands that:

    1) There’s no easy way out.
    2) There’s no shortcut home.

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  32. Probably one of the best interviews of Brian Cashman you’ll read anywhere.

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  33. BobLemonParty says:

    Even though A-Bomb #3 misunderstands “irony” he is 100% correct about how amazing it is you have come full circle, from calling out everything wrong with the Yankees to chatting with the GM about all that is going right. Congratulations and thank you for helping to save the Yankees organization from itself.

    When are you going to start a blog mocking Congress, with Photoshopped images of the assclowns in Washington? Please. Your country needs you.

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  34. Interested Pete Abe says:

    Schooled by LoHud!

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  35. Mariano Rivera is Great says:

    NoMaas wins the Internet!

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  36. HoratioAlgae says:

    Terific interview, you didn’t shudder at the presence of the Cashman. This provided clarity about organizational structure and purpose as well as insights into how future deals are going to happen.

    Also, thanks for not bringing up the tired line of questioning concerning a past LF. I’m so tired of reading or hearing about that.

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  37. Epic fail says:

    Brilliant work. You got an interview with Cashman and three of the questions were:

    * Is it true that you drive a car with a huge “Cashmoney” decal on the back window?

    * Have you ever challenged an opposing GM to a rap battle?

    * When God created OBP, did he also create Nick Johnson?

    Could you have embarrassed yourself more?

    Meanwhile, for all your supposed “cool outsider” cred, all the questions were sloppy blowjobs. I wonder how many nervous revisions it took to come up with just the right tone of reverence before you e-mailed him?

    Shark. Jumped.

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  38. B Rabbit says:

    if we only knew what other yankee blogs were coming here to trash this interview, i would never visit them again. this interview is outstanding and there’s no other way to break it down.

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  39. Butcher says:

    So if I am reading this right…there’s no innings cap on Joba this year…because if there is…I’m going to lose my mind.

    I can’t even believe there’s an innings cap on Hughes still.

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  40. @epic fail – hey, pete abe! welcome to the party.

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  41. Beuff says:

    Cash is a moron.

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  42. rico says:

    Nice interview. What is with all the PeteAbe bashing? The man has moved on and Chad Jennings seems like a hard-working cheerful sort (who isn’t likely to interview Cashman anytime soon). Let’s hold a contest for a new straw man who actually blogs on the Yankees.

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  43. Bowing down to Nomaas says:

    i don’t think i’ve ever seen a beat writer get an interview like this with cashman.

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  44. Sucking up to NoMaas says:

    The beat writers interview Cashman every day. Do you not read the papers?

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  45. Steve says:

    I can’t even believe there’s an innings cap on Hughes still.

    I’m afraid to ask, why not?

    And for the record, “just let the kid pitch!!” is not a compelling argument.

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  46. FlagrantFan says:

    Awesome job! And quite a coup. This was a victory for bloggers everywhere and I applaud you.

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  47. Pete says:

    Great interview. Great questions with none of the typical fluff. I enjoyed hearing NOMASS provide Cash with an alternative player option and hear Cash’s reason for going with another player. Nice work!

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  48. Jim says:

    This is almost as relevant and historical as the moon landing. Great job.

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  49. Senator Scott Brown says:

    The video is an instant classic.

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  50. Voomo Zanzibar says:

    Nice work, NoMaas.
    Thanks.

    Still waiting, though, for some Yankee official to explain why the f they traded Rickey Henderson in 1989.

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