Ivan the Great leads next wave of Yankees pitching prospects
Sunday, August 29, 2010 at 10:23 pm by Gary Wallace
Ivan the Great: 5.2 IP, 1 ER, 5 H, 7 K, 1 BB, 7:3 Groundball/Flyball
After leading the Bombers to a victory on Sunday and providing much-needed stability to the starting rotation, Ivan Nova looks like he is the first in the next wave of Yankees pitching prospects ready to burst onto the big league scene.
Next season, Andrew Brackman, Dellin Betances, DJ Mitchell, David Phelps, and Hector Noesi should all be legitimate candidates to see time in the Boogie Down.
There's always something more rewarding about seeing homegrown players contribute on the big stage, and there's a great crop of players on the verge of getting there. It's a very exciting time for the farm system.
Tags: farm system, game 130, highlights, nova
I think Burnett/Vazquez are a great “crap” of players on the verge of bullpen duty
At least Javy is gone after this year. As for Burnett…trade him to some NL team.
I’m sure you guys posted stuff like this about Hughes and Joba, so color me unimpressed.
^This.
Yvan eht nioj!!!!
I’m shocked we haven’t gotten the Supernova photoshop yet.
doesn’t 2 starts fall into the small sample size category to be calling him great?
I still think the league catches up to him in 2011.
Warner, it’s a play on Ivan The Terrible, you dumbass.
That’s great and all but what are we going to do about our short stop that swings like a 16 year old lefty highschool tennis player named Sally hitting a back hand?
Good God!
Why does he keep trying to fight off 3-1 inside fastballs to right? Jeter, you’re 6’3 200lbs why are you swinging like Wally Backman? It was all good when you could still drive the ball to right but it is obvious you cant anymore…SWING LIKE A MAN!
Oh! And by the way…Brett Gardner…you are holding a BAT…not a fly swatter..it would be nice to see you swing too..not foul 2-0 meatballs over the third base dug out.
Jeter and Gardner
If we wanted Louis Castillo we would have signed him
I’d say Banuelos will be there before Betances, and Sammi doesn’t know what the word “Terrrible” meant in old Russi probably because she’s a woman, therefore an idiot.
I’d say hitting 97 consistently with a nasty breaking pitch that he seems to be able to throw with consistency is reason enough to laud the kid. Totally surprised/thrilled by this guy’s stuff.
@Sammi Sweatheart
Lifetime ban for such juvenile behavior. Grow up and learn how to argue with facts and stats. That shit wouldn’t fly over at RAB.
@Fry:
re: Gardner…who put the team up for good today?
@ everyone else:
via Twitter, Ben Kabak is sick of everyone talking about the “good AJ / bad AJ” meme … so let’s give it a rest, k?
Helllooooooo… Bellmore!
I think I’ll come in here on this post about Nova and his great game, but instead write crap about other players. Jeter Jeter Jeter, Bad AJ, Vasquez, Cervelli, Gardner. I was picked last in kickball as a kid, so I talk shit on pros. Thats how I roll! Look for me on the next posting when I continue my stupidity! Douchebag out.
“I’d say Banuelos will be there before Betances…”
Betances goes on the 40-man after this year, so he’s a much, much stronger candidate to see time with Yankees in the near future than Banuelos.
Remember when NoMaas said this same garbage about Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Dan McCutchen, Chris Garcia, JB Cox, Alan Horn, and Jeff Marquez?
How did that exciting time a few years ago turn out? I’ll tell you how. They all suck besides Hughes.
Of the names NoMaas listed, I guarantee no more than one of those pitchers will ever amount to anything.
@ Reality Check:
Please re-read the below paragraph, and then revist your argument. Are you saying that its NOT exciting to have a great group of potential prospects? Would you rather have a pile of manure and have to trade/pay over and over? You might have well typed about your shoelaces…
Yes, all the prospects dont always work out. Thanks for the enlightenment, genius. I always thought EVERY prospect became a hall of famer!
“There’s always something more rewarding about seeing homegrown players contribute on the big stage, and there’s a great crop of players on the verge of getting there. It’s a very exciting time for the farm system.”
For the haters:
Hughes is good.
Joba is good, the Yankees just fucked him up. Hopefully they don’t fuck up this new crop of guys.
For IPK, you can either argue he is a serviceable pitcher and/or was used as trade bait for someone who should be a good major league Centerfielder.
McCutchen was part of a perfectly fine trade for the Yankees.
Jeff Marquez was part of an awesome trade for the Yankees.
The rest (correct me if I’m wrong) got hurt.
I don’t think anyone is saying ALL of the new guys are going the win the Cy Young, just like not all of those guys panned out. But getting Hughes, Curtis Granderson, Nick Swisher, Marte/Nady, and (what should be a good) Joba Chamberlain out of that group sounds pretty good to me.
And we certainly haven’t even seen the best of Hughes, hopefully the same can be said of Joba.
Go talk to the fucking Nationals about disappointment. It’s what happens to pitchers. Read Joe Posnaski’s article for some perspective. The percentages are against them to make it, so I’ll take what I can get.
Haha, and with this you already have a backup plan when he sucks “Ivan the Terrible”
You guys talk about these prospects like they are the answer.
If Joba was at AAA Throwing 99 w an 89 slider you guys would be pissing to bring him up…yet, most of yuz dont trust him now to pitch the 8th
Our team pitching will manage when our line=up can hit
For an example
!. Gardner…..great to walk and all but swing your bat
2. Swisher….ok batting second
3. Cano……Our best hitter..bat him third
4. A-Rod…..Look inside and swing
5. Tex….Great RBI guy…if u ever wanted to have guys on base….best chance
6. Posada…yes, you hit .250 now but till they bring up Montero it’s on your shoulders…we are sick of watching Frank fuck up games..
7. Granderson….just please do not make us regret the Jackson trade for the rest of the year
8. Kearns/Berkman…..ok guys for the 8 hole
9. Jeter….i know you will be pissed but if we didn’t have ‘JETER’ and we signed a .268 shortstop with no range and no power and Girardi batted him first or second you guys would shit…….good turn around guy.
The Yankees have no farm system as you can see. The Red Sox have the best farm system. What Terry Francona has done w/a group of nobodies and cast offs is incredible, absolutely incredible. In my eyes he’s the AL manager of the year and Theo Epstein has to be the executive of the year for the great work he’s done developing and turning these young minor leaguers into major league ready talent.
Too bad the Sox won’t make the playoffs.
Hey guys! I’m still going to go out there and give up 6 earned after 3 every 5 days…for a long time to come! Hope you enjoy an automatic loss every 5th from me!
@Original RAB Guy
Yes Phil has been a bit more average as of late, but his ERA is still barely over 4 and he has 15 wins, with a pretty nasty K:BB and K/9 ratio… Aside from the fact that his composure, and his gradual progress indicate that he is only going to get better… I think you still underestimate how young he is too obviously.
Which part about putting a post like this about Phil and referring Nova to this deserves unimpression?
Joba is a different story, but Joba was overhyped, and aside from his fireballing, he lacks the personal discipline and attitude to get WAY UP THERE… however, I’m not writing him off just yet.
I found Ivan’s portrait placement in the portrait, facing left or to the west, to be of particular interest. For 500 years, Russia has struggled with its identity, at once both “Western” and also thoroughly excluded by traditional Western powers.
Much has been made of Russia’s autocratic tendencies from The Czarist regime to the Politburo and now the business/state oligarchy: Is this urge toward centralization simply a manifestation of a collective Russian desire to be fully integrated into the west, regardless of the social/political consequences?
wish we had strasburg instead of nova….oh
I like Nova. Can’t wait to see the organization mess him up like they did with Joba.
Does anyone remember an innings limit on young Andy Pettitte? Or “Mariano Rules”? And here we are 15 years later and they’re still doing fine.
Ooh… trade bait! Maybe we can give him away for an aging veteran and a bag of hammers someday.
Gary,
Yeah, the 40 man considerations wasn’t something I considered. I was thinking strictly in terms of when they’ll be ready for the ML level.
Stop making fun of Joba.
The Yankees didn’t screw up Joba. He’s just not that good. If he was as good as we thought the in and out of the bullpen & the rotation and the innings limit would’ve been a minor bump in the road.
“That’s great and all but what are we going to do about our short stop that swings like a 16 year old lefty highschool tennis player named Sally hitting a back hand?
Good God!
Why does he keep trying to fight off 3-1 inside fastballs to right? Jeter, you’re 6’3 200lbs why are you swinging like Wally Backman? It was all good when you could still drive the ball to right but it is obvious you cant anymore…SWING LIKE A MAN!
Oh! And by the way…Brett Gardner…you are holding a BAT…not a fly swatter..it would be nice to see you swing too..not foul 2-0 meatballs over the third base dug out.
Jeter and Gardner
If we wanted Louis Castillo we would have signed him”
Jesus Christ, Imagine having to watch a game with this loser? I’d make up an excuse and leave by the 2nd inning.
@Mike K – Young Andy Pettitte was drafted out of high school and played in the minors for 4 years before coming up to the Yankees in 1995. And he never topped 170 innings in any year in the minors. There was an innings limit – you just didn’t see it because it wasn’t in the Bronx. And there were no “Mariano Rules” because Mo was a starter in the minors for 4 years before he came up to the Bronx in 1995, topping out in innings for a season at 131 in 1994.
Both of those guys went through similar development cycles that Hughes and Chamberlain are going through. There’s was all in the minors, which is why you didn’t see it. And Hughes would be much further along and be out of the innings limit discussions if he hadn’t gotten hurt twice already.
The organization didn’t “mess” with Joba Chamberlain. They did what was necessary to try and protect his arm and build it up for a long career. And if you doubt that, there is a long line of promising MLB careers that have been shot or stunted due to overwork. Tim Lincecum says hello. So does Justin Verlander. And as much of a horse as CC Sabathia is today, he only topped 200 innings once in the first 6 years of his career with the Indians, when we was 20-25 years old.
I cant wait to see Girardi try and pull Zambrano off the mound next year in the 6th inning of a meaingless game in mid June when his pitch count is in the 80s and see what he does
Reading 90% of these post you’d think the Yankees were in 4th and 14 games out of the wild card.
All you people do is bitch and moan. Someone even made a new lineup and basically bitched about all 9 guys, amazing.
My god judging by the comments the team absolutely sucks and it’s some sort of miracle we’re even in the playoff picture.
Here come the a’s, i hate their catcher
It baffles the mind that some people used this post by NoMaas to then rip on Yankee prospects.
I really like this photoshop, artistically done of course.
I hope Nova keeps winning, if only for the awkward Spanglish postgame interviews. YES can have Robbie Cano translate for him if necessary. Keep F’ing that chicken
Impressive. Most impressive.
@ Ben:
See what you can do about getting people banned on this site, too
touch me
On a side note can we please start the process of eliminating the term “beast”?
I cant take it anymore, he’s a beast, you’re a beast, blah blah blah.
Nova is a beast.
I just cant take it anymore, when did every 12 year old start calling things beasts?
You watch a draft, nba or Nfl and everysingle pick if you read about it is called a beast one place or another.
I hope pettite come back strong….he’s a beast.
so please enough with beast, move on to something else
Ben Kabak gives good head
“Reading 90% of these post you’d think the Yankees were in 4th and 14 games out of the wild card.”
Triple shot of this.
Matrix, did you leave anything for us???
“8. Kearns/Berkman…..ok guys for the 8 hole”
Yeah they are “ok” 8th hitters. I’d much rather have Prince Fielder batting 8th but i guess were stuck with just these “ok” players.
I’m from a shithole, am huge, have crazy numbers my whole career. You’re damn right i never did roids and it’s a joke to even think that i could have.
I mean you’d think the past 15 years all the big guys with big numbers all did roids………..oh wait, shit, gotta go.
Ben Kabak gives head to Frankie Cervelli.
@General Kirby:
Bodies.
for Best Movie Ever Made. Highlander came in a distant 2nd.
/this