In the third and final installment of our Ménage à Trois series, we look at fielding. Defense is much more difficult to evaluate than hitting and pitching. It is for this reason that we will be employing three methods of fielding analysis:
1. Fangraph’s UZR per 150 games (UZR/150)
2. Baseball-Reference/Sean Smith’s Total Zone (TZ)
3. Tom Tango’s Fans Scouting Report (FSR).
UZR and TZ use a system of above or below-average fielding runs, while FSR is a grading system on a scale of 0-100 (50 is average) based on surveyed fan opinions.
To arrive at our conclusions, we used career UZR/150 and the 2010 results for Total Zone & Fans Scouting Report. The numbers reflect only the position at which the player is expected to see the majority of time in 2011. Also, it’s worth noting that for catchers we used career fielding runs in place of UZR/150.
With that, let’s take a look at the leather.
Catcher:
Russell Martin (11.9 FR, 4 TZ, 56 FSR)
Jarrod Saltalamacchia (-13 FR, 0 TZ, no FSR)
John Jaso (-2 FR, TZ, -3 TZ, 42 FSR)
Martin’s injury issues are well-documented. It is reasonable to expect that these injuries affected his defense, especially given his position. Nevertheless, he still appears to be an average to slightly above-average catcher based on the three evaluation methods.
Saltalamacchia’s stint in 2010 was very brief and he did not receive a fan scout evaluation. His last in 2009 was a below-average score of 40, which matches up with his other subpar ratings.
Jaso has only season under his belt, but the consensus is that he’s an offense-first catcher. His platoon partner Kelly Shoppach rates below-average defensively as well.
Advantage: Yankees
First base:
Mark Teixeira (5 UZR, 7 TZ, 71 FSR)
Adrian Gonzalez (1.1 UZR, 6 TZ, 69 FSR)
Dan Johnson (0.9 UZR, 1 TZ, 45 FSR)
Mark Teixeira has the reputation of being God’s gift to defense, and the metrics give him a glowing review (but we thought UZR hated Teixeira?!?!). The fans also rate him very well with a 71/100.
Adrian Gonzalez also rates well as a defender, although a tick below Marky Mark. Naturally, since he plays in Boston, he will develop the reputation as being the greatest defensive player of all-time.
Dan Johnson obviously trails Teixeira and Gonzalez in all three evaluation methods. However, he’s certainly not killing the Rays out there. He’s adequate.
Advantage: Yankees
Second base:
Robinson Cano (-6.2 UZR, 0 TZ, 73 FSR)
Dustin Pedroia (7 UZR, 11 TZ, 77 FSR)
Sean Rodriguez (4.8 UZR, 0 TZ, 71 FSR)
Cano is easily the most interesting case. He plays second base like he’s on the And-1 Tour and the fans rated him highly for that (73/100). TotalZone has always liked his defense, however last season it pegged him as exactly average. UZR has never been the biggest fan of the Postgame Interview Master, although his scores have improved in the last 2 years.
By all measures, Brett’s brother rates very highly. The close agreement between all three methods reaffirms Pedroia’s excellent miniature-sized glove. However, we are curious to see if his Yao Ming-like foot injury affects his fielding in 2011.
Since Rodriguez hasn’t played a full season yet, the numbers are likely not fully accurate. The impressive rating by the FSR and above-average UZR score are worth keeping an eye on in the upcoming season.
Advantage: Sox
Third base:
Alex Rodriguez (-2.9 UZR, -7 TZ, 63 FSR)
Kevin Youkilis (6.9 UZR, 0 TZ, 67 FSR)
Evan Longoria (16.9 UZR, 15 TZ, 86 FSR)
A-Rod has obviously lost a step (or two) since his days as an elite shortstop. Banging American Gladiators will do that to a man. The infamous hip also hasn’t helped his cause. While the FSR rated him above-average, UZR and TZ see him as below-average.
Youkilis’s evaluation is not entirely reliable. His TZ rating is based on just 15 innings at third base last season. His career UZR at third base rates very well, but it remains to be seen how he will transition back to a job he has not had in a while.
Evan Longoria is one of the best fielders in all of baseball, at any position. There isn’t much to say about him other than he’s an elite defender.
Advantage: Rays
Shortstop:
Derek Jeter (-5.1 UZR, -10 TZ, 53 FSR)
Marco Scutaro (-3.5 UZR, -1 TZ, 49 FSR)
Reid Brignac (0.6 UZR, 0 TZ, 69 FSR)
Long regarded by the nerds as one of the worst defensive shortstops in MLB, Jeter experienced a defensive renaissance from 2008-2009, according to UZR. However, in 2010, it shows that he had cement blocks tied to his feet. TotalZone agrees with UZR in this instance. The fans however, perhaps mesmerized by the trademark fistpump, gave him a slightly above-average grade of 53/100.
Scutaro spent most of his career as a utility player, but has been used as an everyday shortstop for the past two seasons. By all three methods, he ranks a touch below-average. If Scutaro loses his job, Jed “The Future” Lowrie will likely step in. He has impressed TZ and UZR, but the fans see him as only slightly above-average.
Brignac has yet to play a full season, so the numbers probably don’t mean a whole lot. Yet, when compared to Jeter and Scutaro, the 25-year old looks like Ozzie Smith. The fans graded him nicely in 2010 and their score of 62 from 2009 complements that. We haven’t seen much from Brignac yet, but the fans clearly like what they’ve witnessed so far.
Advantage: Rays
Left Field:
Brett Gardner (39.2 UZR, 18 TZ, 72 FSR)
Carl Crawford (15 UZR, 1 TZ, 75 FSR)
Johnny Damon (3.5 UZR, -1 TZ, 33 FSR)
Gardner is rated among the best defenders in the league and is easily the best defensive player on the Yankees. All the evaluation methods agree that the he is a top-notch fielder.
While many look to Crawford’s steals as the best use of his speed, it is his defense that has made him such a valuable player throughout his career. Crawford and Gardner are difficult to compare in that Gardner’s numbers are better, but over a smaller sample. Crawford’s move to Fenway’s LF does make us wonder if his defensive contributions will be limited this year, unless he can climb walls.
According to the measures, Damon is either very bad or just average. Either way, he is certainly not on the level of Gardner or Crawford.
Advantage: Yankees
Center Field:
Curtis Granderson (4.4 UZR, -4 TZ, 62 FSR)
Jacoby Ellsbury (0.2 UZR, 2 TZ, 49 FSR)
B.J. Upton (5.7 UZR, 9 TZ, 74 FSR)
The UZR and FSR evaluations on Granderson are above-average with TZ as the outlier. Granderson dealt with injury last year, which certainly could have hurt his TZ rating. It’s fair to say Granderson is an above-average defender.
Ellsbury is an interesting case. He posted exceptional numbers in 2008 followed by very poor numbers in 2009. Last year, his season was cut short by injury. With the Crawford signing, he is now returning to center full-time. His defensive prowess is questionable at this point.
For all his struggles at the plate, Bossman Junior’s defense hasn’t taken a hit. He maintains a deserved reputation as a very solid center fielder. Nevertheless, his range will certainly be tested this season as Carl Crawford turns into Johnny Damon.
Advantage: Rays
Right field:
Nick Swisher (2.2 UZR, 5 TZ, 48 FSR)
J.D. Drew (7.3 UZR, 7 TZ, 71 FSR)
Ben Zobrist (22.2 UZR, 4 TZ, 69 FSR)
Swisher certainly isn’t a liability in the outfield, despite the occasional goofy play. At worst, the fans see him just slightly below-average.
Despite having osteoporosis, Drew continues to rate as an excellent outfielder across the board. As long as he’s playing, he will convert outs very well.
Zobrist’s ability to play multiple positions well (he also possesses a 20.5 UZR/150 at 2B) has earned him a reputation as an everyday super-utility player. For his versatility and reliability, Zobrist is one of the most valuable defensive players in baseball.
Advantage: Rays
The Yankee defense is certainly not terrible and when compared to a few seasons ago, it comes up smelling like roses. A healthy Curtis Granderson and Russell Martin will certainly be a nice boost.
The Red Sox are solid defensively, but it will be interesting to see how Ellsbury and Youkilis man their “new” positions.
The Rays have three elite defenders in Longoria, Upton, and Zobrist. They also have a young duo up the middle in Brignac and Rodriguez who could prove to be a defensive asset.
For all of the comparisons, the Rays have many strengths and few weaknesses defensively. They are very young (outside of Damon) in the field, and even with the departure of Crawford, we still give the Rays the overall advantage.
Overall advantage: Rays
If you missed our previous editions of Ménage à trois, here’s Part 1 and Part 2.




46 Comments
Sensitive RAB Guy March 15, 2011 22:34
“unless he can climb walls”
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thats-racist
Gilbert Godfried March 16, 2011 06:12
I wish you would have been swept away in the tsunami. Please don’t fire me!!!
Joe Pawlikowski March 16, 2011 12:21
That is mean and insensitive. Please donate or my 80k word posts don’t mean anything.
Sensitive RAB Guy March 19, 2011 12:29
JoePawl Gym etiquette, Pt II:
“@Larry_Koestler I loathe the people who take up a whole bench in the locker room. Move your shit, I want to get to my locker.”
dan l March 15, 2011 22:53
There is no way Kevin Youkilis rates at a 12 UZR. Look at the individual years and they can’t equal that. Plus can he throw a straight ball to first coming off thumb surgery?
Alfredo Griffin March 16, 2011 00:04
Where do you see a 12?
Sensitive RAB Guy March 16, 2011 09:27
anti-Semite, obvs
TSJC March 15, 2011 23:52
Ultimate menage a trois-Mike, Joe Paw, and Ben Jr getting funky while discussing the merits of Yankee Stadium parking lots….
Daddy Like
Joe Pawlikowski March 16, 2011 12:22
I’ve had worse guys suck my boners.
Sensitive RAB Guy March 18, 2011 17:16
B R E A K I N G . . .
TSJC = WHITER than you
“Shouldn’t the G be moving “in” the lasagna, and not “like” the lasagna? And shouldn’t it actually be… silent? #foodsimiledeconstruction
Weezy, real G’s DON’T move in silence like lasagna. You gave it the college try, though. #thisrapislikeziti #iwasalreadyonfishandspaghetti”
Tim March 16, 2011 00:19
I’m sorry but I gotta give Cano more props. No 2nd baseman imo since Alomar goes to his right and has the arm strength to get off an accurate throw behind second base better than Cano. He’s an elite defender in my book and I see almost all of the games. Arod apparently has lost weight and appears more flexible this season, here’s hoping that he can make a defensive comeback in 2011. Do the Yanks play Chavez alot this year at 3B if he stays healthy and Arod at DH? That signing may be one of the best Cashman signings this season if he stays healthy. Chavez has looked good at 3B and is a former GG winner. I like the Yankees defense. And finally Jeter may not get to as many balls as most SS but he is one of the most sure handed if not the most surehanded SS in baseball. And they don’t have Marcus Thames and his defensive adventures to deal with this year which right there improves their defense this season over last season a ton!!!
Sensitive RAB Guy March 16, 2011 03:59
“goes to his right”
“get off”
“second base”
“lost weight and appears more flexible this season”
“Chavez has looked good:
“get to as many balls as most”
“most sure handed if not the most surehanded”
“defensive adventures”
“!!!”
Pete C. March 16, 2011 06:52
Haiku? Hai-gay.
[Censored] March 16, 2011 08:36
Dude, your opinion doesn’t mean anything in the face of three flawed, conflicting, inconsistent statistics combined together. Get over yourself, racist.
Chris Berman March 16, 2011 08:36
@Tim:
No 2nd baseman since Alomar? Have you watched every play from every second basemen since Alomar suffered anal fissures?
I agree that Jeter doesn’t make many errors, but that’s really the only positive about his defense. He has no range and couldn’t get to a bowling ball if it wasn’t hit right at him (h/t photoshop).
Nick Social March 17, 2011 09:24
I don’t disagree with anything you wrote, but it’s kind of a drag when signing a scrap-heap Eric Chavez translates into your best off-season move.
Bexarama March 16, 2011 01:36
I want to go to Olive Garden and eat the all you can eat breadsticks and salad. Hope they restocked the toilet paper.
TSJC March 16, 2011 12:23
Daddy likes when you take dumps.
Richard Iurilli March 16, 2011 01:39
I want to be trapped in a sealed room and forced to smell Bexy’s egg salad farts….
Jay Destro's Weiner March 16, 2011 12:23
Shut up.
Sensitive RAB Guy March 16, 2011 03:44
Cephster shows why the RABbis 1.) have a grasp of the big issues / are smarter than you 2.) really are nice people:
“# Japan sounds fucked”
11:12 PM Mar 14th via TweetDeck
Delusional March 16, 2011 12:38
That’s the best you can come up with? Weak, brah.
Joe Pawlikowski March 16, 2011 14:54
Leave Ross alone.
The 1999 New York Mets March 16, 2011 06:12
Our defense is still the best of all time.
Pete C. March 16, 2011 06:41
Missed it by that much.
R2-D2 March 16, 2011 09:22
Was a bit surprised about Swish thought he would rate lower. But whoo does Brett’s brother get a fagpass. Shit Cano glides too, Dusty flops on the ground to get and sometimes looks like he is dragging his ass across the carpet like my dog.
Chris Berman March 16, 2011 09:36
Cano makes things look good. I thought the “And-1″ reference was really funny, but true. Seems to be uniform agreement about Pedroia though.
And you might want to get your dog’s anal glands expressed.
Shoe March 16, 2011 09:47
I think overall, the white players are better than the black players.
[Censored] March 16, 2011 10:23
Better enunciators.
Sensitive RAB Guy March 16, 2011 12:31
It’s great when Joe Thunder thinks you actually are Ben Kaback and gets angry with you.
[Censored] March 16, 2011 12:46
Maybe Pawlikowski is thunder in polish.
Joe Pawlikowski March 16, 2011 14:55
It’s polish for “Kicking ass and sucking boners”
JoeThunder March 17, 2011 17:43
I love how you Jew clowns take my anger seriously.
Richard Iurilli March 16, 2011 14:24
More like extremely small penis in Polish
Carjack Malone March 16, 2011 17:43
Derek Jeter will win another gold glove and the guys from RAB will all marry super models. For other bullshit stories follow me at Twitter.
[Censored] March 16, 2011 21:14
If you are looking for a classic RAB groupthink smack down, complete with a nonsense post by mike, blind devotion to the leaders, a contrasting opinion shouted down, bexy “weighing” in, and everyone agreeing to be friends at the end, check out the most recent link dump, good times.
[Censored] March 16, 2011 21:26
Audio, bexy mentions anti-jewry and homophobia, but not racism, I think that means she doesn’t like blacks. She should probably keep her options open, but that’s just unsolicited advice.
Charles Manson March 16, 2011 21:31
Why even bother reviewing what the Rays do? They aren’t competing for shit.
Professor Twain March 17, 2011 02:04
Rays will compete with the aging Yanks, and their swiss cheese starting pitching, for the wild card.
Nick Social March 17, 2011 09:27
I’d say the Rays are still relevant.
Professor Twain March 17, 2011 02:03
Nice series, very balanced. Nice to see the props that you gave to Rays fielders, including Brignac. He is looking dazzling in spring training.
Reports of the death of the Rays have been greatly exaggerated.
Sensitive RAB Guy March 17, 2011 08:27
“dazzling”
Hi, big boy
Frank Footer March 17, 2011 17:43
I want to pound you in the ass so bad that you you’ll be feeling my tip on your tonsils. Anyways, Our defense will be fine for the season.
Cano March 17, 2011 22:43
Postgame Interview Master indeed, my friend.
mike francesa March 19, 2011 09:04
wait a second you can’t use Tango stats and UZR to rate defense that’s equivalent to 50 Cent writing The Canterbury Tales. Fielder is a better defensive first baseman then Teixeira using that garbage stat, please fellas keep the defensive math in schools or in the Boston front office where it belongs. Hey where are all the value geeks now that Chamberlain can’t make opening day, who’s your set up guy if Soriano isn’t in Town wise azzes?
Sterling Archer March 20, 2011 20:46
DANGER ZONE!!!