As soon as the World Series closes, we will partake in the annual NoMaas tradition of offering Ca$hmoney (assuming his deal finally gets done) & Co. our offseason recommendations.
Before we commence with our insanity, we want to quickly address two no-brainers. They make so much sense that we really don’t need to dedicate full posts to them.
Picking up Swisher’s $10.25 million option
A short-term deal at a below-value price for an above-average player…there isn’t much more to be said. Since joining the Yankees in 2009, he’s accumulated 11 wins above replacement. For a team laden with long-term, big money deals, getting Swisher on these terms is a steal. If only the Yankees had more like this…
Sabathia’s opt-out
We’ve been saying since last offseason that Sabathia would opt out of his deal. Considering the Cliff Lee contract and the fact the organization has set precedent that they’ll bend over for any brand name Yankee player, CC has the front office by the proverbial bizalls. He will opt out and the Yankees will re-sign him to even bigger money. They really have no choice. The lack of frontline depth in the rotation makes his re-signing necessary. We wouldn’t be surprised to see that 4-year deal turn into a seven.
60 Comments
Bugg October 25, 2011 22:00
As to Sabbathis; the Yanks have to be concerned over his lackluster postseason and his weight. And they will be bidding against themselves. Entirely possible the Steinbrenner boys play hardball and wait for CC to come crawling back for 5 years instead of 7. The A-rod contract is a constant remninder of the ugliness of a long-term deal with an expensive and shitty back end.
Jason Giambi October 25, 2011 22:02
I set the standards for shitty back end contracts. Looking back on it Yankee fans, was I really worth it?
Mark Teixera October 26, 2011 01:28
When all is said and done, will the my numbers be that different?
Tex's Left Hand October 27, 2011 12:03
If we’re counting world series rings, then yes the numbers have been different!
Tino Martinez October 27, 2011 12:06
I didn’t have to look back on the deal. It was weak letting me go. In fact, I led the actual team in hr and rbi with 4 championships and the flash and balls to play in NYC. You’re first interview with NYTimes you complained about the batter’s box. So real yank fans knew you were a juicing scrub from the get who led the A’s to nothing. And you had top flight pitching.
Pete C. October 29, 2011 07:44
Whoever gave this the thumbs down is a fucking asshole.
Jason Giambi was a wasted signing. I’ve heard his apologists quote his stats, which if you want to comb through them, sometimes don’t seem so bad.
I do know this, when the yanks first signed him, SI waxed all poetic about how he had power to all fields, and because he hit to the gaps all the time he wouldn’t fall in love with the porch in right. And that hitting .300 wasn’t going to be a problem.
Yeah right, who listens to those dipshits anyway?
Evidently George and his handpicked team in Tampa did.
Well the rest is history, that waste took one look at the right field fence, and said fuck that Mickey Mantle worship my old man taught me. I’m gonna be the fuckin’ Babe.
After that the motherfucker couldn’t finish a swing at the stadium without checking out who was in the home dugout, because he was trying to yank the ball into right so hard, he was pulling his head off it halfway through his swing.
The fucking guy when he was in one of interminable slumps started calling himself the designated out.
So what’s with all the worship of this hump? He was a POOR defender, and after he decided it wasn’t manly enough to hit to center or left.
Maybe all the reporters loved him because he was a “rebel” and he still deigned to talk to him.
The fans took to him because he kissed their ass at every opportunity. And that nonsense about him becoming a true Yankee after he hit the granny in the rain was pure bullshit.
He wasn’t the teams worst free agent signing, I saw Ed Whitson cry on the mound, and who could forget the crash test dummy, Dave Collins, I remember some bonehead they picked up from Pittsburgh, who got hit in the head by a ball in BP, never really played again.
No he wasn’t the worst, but why he gets any adulation is a mystery. I thought that after a few years fans would take the rose colored glasses off, I guess I’m just impatient.
Batting average October 29, 2011 23:56
Who the fuck cares about batting average when you have an OBP well over .400?
OldYanksFan October 30, 2011 01:29
Nawwwwwwwwwwww…. Hundreds of guys posted a .925 OPS as a Yankee. No big deal.
rgallettz October 26, 2011 10:22
A few remarks on your argument.
1. Who says the Yanks’ will be bidding against themselves? If he opts out he’ll be the #1 available starting pitcher on the Market. Im sure that will fetch him some good offers.
2. A-Rod’s contract is not back loaded. His most expensive season has just finished in 2011. It is all down hill from here with a final salary of $20 mil in 2017.
3. His name is Sabathia not “Sabbathis”.
Random Fan who Lurks Nomaas and posts in their chat whos nick name rhymes with purse October 26, 2011 17:56
With Lackey having TJ surgery his contract gets less expensive making them contenders to bid on Sabathia
Bugg October 26, 2011 19:25
True. But the Sawx’ ownership was not happy with a $170 million payroll. They might be inclined to give Sabbathia a 4 or 5 year deal, but they won’t bid on a 6 or 7 year one. The one place that might be willing to make a splash with Sabbathia and has the money is the Cubs.
A-rod’s contract is not backloaded, but it is not cheap; pyaing $20 million plus for an old corner infielder/DH is going to be an unhappy back end.And the pact is chock full expensive incentives that could bring it in at $150 million plus over the length. Anf those incentives will all be at the end if he is reaching the various homer plateaus.
Sabathia October 25, 2011 22:01
I will get a 7 year deal and will hit the DL for extended time for 5 of them, thats just how i will roll (off my bed)
Carl Pavano October 25, 2011 22:03
*LAUGHS LIKE BUTT_HEAD*
They gave $40 mil for 4 years.
*LAUGHS LIKE BUTT_HEAD*
Rebexarama October 27, 2011 18:56
lick me:
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TSJC October 27, 2011 19:04
Come to Daddy….I got some black love juice for that white ass
The agent for Carlos Beltran October 25, 2011 22:04
Um…how does 5 years, $100 million sound?
TTF October 25, 2011 22:05
Texas and St. Louis fared pretty well losing Cliff Lee and Adam Wainwright. Losing Sabathia doesn’t mean this team can’t win. They better not fall for this opt out claus again, Hopefully they learned something from Arod
The agent for Rafael Soriano October 25, 2011 22:05
Sell Soriano to the Libyans.
Muslim Brotherhood October 26, 2011 07:49
Allah Ahkbar!
The agent for Jorge Posada October 25, 2011 22:06
Mr. Posada has requested a 2 years extension at $20 million plus a $5 million dollar donation to keeping Laura’s tits oh so perfect.
Sensitive RAB Guy October 27, 2011 20:58
Done.
Joe Páwlikowski November 1, 2011 14:45
Yum. Jorgies ass crack.
Dr. Emmett Brown October 25, 2011 22:08
Never deal with the Libyans!
Jim Leyritz's Cellmate October 25, 2011 22:08
Can’t wait for Sabathia to opt out so all the jackass Phillies’ fans I work with can misread the whole situation and taunt me for weeks about CC leaving the team…
Occupy Wall Street guy that prefers to go home at night and sleep and eat well then come back the next day smelling good instead like a hippie October 25, 2011 22:14
Occupy Yankee stadium, less long term contracts, big stars and post season failures and more cheaper prices for the avg fan, more youth movement, less corporate greed, more high energy fans, Less Sabathias, Arods, Teixeiras, More Montero, Noesi, Novas!
a working class hero is something to be , a working class hero is something to be!
You're a Fucking Moron October 26, 2011 16:30
Hey, you’re a fucking moron. Go occupy a job you bed-wetting hippie douche bag. Yankees charge too much, don’t go to the game. It takes a special kind of idiot to protest corporations that take our tax money while serving shill for the party that doled out the funds. Asswipe.
LeonS October 26, 2011 19:14
I didn’t think he was serving shill for the Republicans…
NoMaas October 25, 2011 22:31
“The lack of frontline depth in the rotation makes his re-signing necessary.”
Yet we endorse Cash, who hasn’t been able to provide that in eight (8) years! Yeay.
potatoes October 25, 2011 23:40
before you contradict yourself, Cashman got Sabathia.
reading comprehension October 26, 2011 08:30
um … the point is that a dumb CC contract will be necessary b/c Cash hasn’t been able to provide any frontline depth, thus losing any leverage. Anything else Spanky?
Mike K October 26, 2011 14:44
And here I thought it was the money.
CC Sabathia October 26, 2011 17:40
No, Cashman didn’t get me to play for the Yankees. $160 million got me to play for the Yankees. And that’s what it’s going to take to get me again.
Pete C. October 26, 2011 05:25
If CC wants 7 years, he’s gotta drop 10 lbs. for each of those years.
Duh October 26, 2011 09:27
It’s a game we will lose no matter what happens. He will opt out, he will get more money (as any of us would do) and we’re going to pay it. Period. Certainly we can draw a line in the sand to avoid absurdity, but the free agent market is so poor this year that a) we have no other options and b) teams like the Red Sox & Mets would surely offer more years or $ if we don’t step up and lock him in. So, even though he faded down the stretch and even though we all know his health is going to be an issue, he still has all the leverage. Isn’t it great to be left handed and have the ability to throw a stupid baseball?
Hobo Harry October 26, 2011 09:38
Offer that fat black exactly what is left on his contract. We already got the best part of that deal. Let him walk if he wants. We have tons of young starting pitching depth, who knows if one of them can be a front line starter.
Hughes will be good/great next year after a year to recover from his abuse in 2010. Nova is a young stud.
Fuck CC if he wants to ruin us for years to come. We cannot afford awful contracts to CC, Arod, Jeter and Tex.
Lincoln's Beard October 26, 2011 09:53
Every year since like 2004 we’ve had rotation depth problems because the Yankees cannot develop starting pitching. We’ve all had our frustrations with Hughes and Joba and look on as Kennedy has blossomed. I think we need to figure out what the Rays or Rangers do in that regard. Obviously the Rays have better prospects and the Rangers play in weaker division, but there has to be something that can be done to improve in this area.
Hobo Harry October 26, 2011 10:35
Kennedy has not blossomed, he started pitching in a vastly inferior division. Why can’t anyone realized that the NL sucks and pitching numbers are inflated. Look at Lee and Hallady. Their numbers got a lot better after a move to NL. It is so fucking clear, and getting a boner for IPK as having “become” some great pitcher is stupid. He would be 4th or 5th starter for yanks this past year. I will take Grandy any day over that.
Mr. Beer October 26, 2011 11:07
I agree with you on Kennedy (he’s probably a good #3 in the AL East but a bona fide ace in the NL), but I think the OP’s point is that the Yankees struggle to develop starters. Unfortunately, the last 20 years of evidence prove that out.
Mike Piazza's Beard October 26, 2011 10:56
Why does Mikey have his own bedroom?
Ubaldo Jimenez October 26, 2011 10:15
You should have traded all of Scranton for me.
CC's agent October 26, 2011 10:36
CC is worth his weight in millions!!!
…no seriously, give him +300mil
Theo Epstein October 26, 2011 10:46
#occupymyballs
I got a new gig with more power and a raise – the economy is great!
Fuck all, y’all!
Tony La Russa October 26, 2011 10:52
No-brainer #3: Invest in a good bullpen phone. Girardi might call for Rivera and end up with Buddy Carlyle.
Mike K October 26, 2011 14:51
I fail to see how giving CC a 7 year contract worth over 9 figures is a “no-brainer.” The smart move is to bite the bullet, thank god we god 3 stellar seasons out of him, and move on.
Mike Lupica is a Dick October 26, 2011 16:40
That isn’t going to happen, but you have a good point. When is the last time a team got three great seasons from a starting pitcher who was signed as a top tier free agent and the team wasn’t on the hook for the inevitable decline? How many more great seasons can we realistically expect out of Sabathia?
Also, Mike Lupica is such a dick.
Pete C. October 26, 2011 18:45
David Wells used to say, “I don’t have to run the ball to the plate.” That may be, but it was obvious that, Sabathia was a shell by September. I blame the weight. The team say’s he weighs 290 on the roster. I gotta say that man had to weigh in the neighborhood of 320 to 340 by September.
Any serious consideration for him to fulfill a 7 year contract would have to go hand in hand with a serious weight reduction.Below the before mentioned 290.
Who sees a man in his late 30′s that overweight pitching in the majors. He’s 31 now, if he weighed 250-260, he’d still be big.
I watched him pitch in person once this year and was surprised at how he just couldn’t field his position.
If he won’t lose the crisco let him go somewhere else.
The Facts Hurt October 26, 2011 20:16
The man is a very talented pitcher but his body will betray him. Just because he can throw a fastball doesn’t circumvent the fat ratio on his body. He’s a bad bet.
There will be many team bidding for his services let me him.
Last time I checked the Rangers didn’t need him the past 2 years.
Nails October 26, 2011 19:21
I’m hidin out in CC’s fat rolls. Makin deals. This n that. Got some prime real estate under his moobs. You innerested, call me. Call me. You got my number.
The Truth October 27, 2011 16:10
If this article is true, not that I trust the human pap smear Wallace MAtthews, we are in trouble:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/25075/new-player-in-yanks-rf-derby-beltran
Pete C. October 27, 2011 16:35
Somebody’s fucking around. No way they’re interested in Beltran, or dealing with Scott Boras. Beltran won’t play 140 games next year, and Boras is inflating his value like he does with all his clients. Just ask Damon.
Swisher’s become a good right fielder, maybe not Beltran’s caliber, but if Beltran plays 100 games, be surprised.
Rebexarama October 27, 2011 18:55
kiss me:
http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1605090473/IMG_0120.JPG
TSJC October 27, 2011 19:06
Oh, yeah, come to daddy, Bexy. Me and my posse will fill all those holes
Joe Páwlikowski November 1, 2011 14:40
Golden Gate time?
Max Secksapeel October 28, 2011 11:29
St.Louis and Texas seem to do just fine without an true ace this year…just sayin.
Rafael Soriano October 28, 2011 19:01
I’m opting out…psyche bitches!!!
English 101 October 30, 2011 01:57
Who will brian chasman plug into the rotation> It won’t be Sidney Pinson and it cetraintly wont be CC sabashtia
ARod October 31, 2011 08:54
CC will come crawling back (with a big raise) just like I did.
ARod November 1, 2011 08:35
TOLD YA SO!
Ross in NJ November 1, 2011 14:36
^^THIS
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