Baseball Prospectus has published another article quantifying the effects catchers have on their pitching staffs, and once again, Russell Martin ranks among the top in the game.
The money shot: Martin has added 1.7 wins in catcher defense per year. Overall, this means he’s been between an all-star and an elite level player pretty much every year of his career.
Reportedly, the Yankees offered Martin a 3 year / $20 million extension in the offseason, which would actually be a paycut from the annual salary he will earn in 2012 ($7.5 million). It was definitely a lowball offer and RussMart wisely turned it down.
Already above-average offensively for his position and with the increasing buzz about his defense, Martin is going to get PAID. Three years for $30 million would have been much fairer offer, but because they lowballed him, they now put themselves at a significant risk of losing him in free agency. The Yankees do have a great stable of young catching prospects, but it’s still a big gamble — one they may lose.
It also makes you wonder how the Yankees go about offering contracts. They lowball Martin and yet give contracts to certain players that are so far above their actual production value that you wonder if they’re drunk when they negotiate.



30 Comments
Shogun of Harlem February 26, 2012 22:36
Stop it, they have a great group of catchers in the minors and I am sure one if not more are defensively capable to compare with Martin. Take away the first month of last season and Martin sucked offensively. He was an automatic out for four months! Sorry I’ll take a minor leaguer there and spend that money you save on him on a premier pitcher next year or position player like Josh Hamilton.
Nomaas stop this absurd backing of Martin! He wants to get paid, let us see if he can hit more than a month of the season!
Wow. February 26, 2012 23:47
Holy shit are you an idiot.
Shogun of Harlem February 27, 2012 17:39
You are the idiot and an asshole if you would give Martin an extension right now given he hit like shit, didn’t hit in the playoffs and only hidden value is making him look good at all. With Sanchez and Romine in the minor what idiot would waste over 10 mil at that position on a catcher who’s production you can match in a AAA right now!
TSJC February 29, 2012 15:22
My NIGGA!
What it be, holmes?
Sherlock March 2, 2012 19:25
? I fail to see how I am relevant to this conversation.
Jorge Posada February 27, 2012 01:34
Would you prefer having me and my defensive skillz behind the dish?
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) February 27, 2012 07:47
I have to agree with this comment. If he has a steller year then the Yankees will pay him. I am looking forward to the increased production out of Swisher and Martin in their walk years.
Sully February 27, 2012 08:26
Peace be upon the Prophet Muhammad from his dedicated supporters in Al-Chowdah.
Keenan Ivory Waynes February 27, 2012 08:39
And what a time to bring up Josh Hamilton. Could you have picked a worse example?
Nick Swisher February 27, 2012 12:55
Heyyyy boi don’t be gettin on my brotha from anotha motha, R-Mart! By the way, I’ve been workin out this offseason and have stopped eatin so many double cheeseburgers, postseason prowess here I come!!! Follow me on twitter to keep up with my diet updates and workout schedule, shoutout to my creatures! HOLLAAAAAAAA
RimJob Mike February 27, 2012 04:45
“I hate the Red Sox.”
This statement alone is worth 3 years, $30mil.
Randy Levine February 27, 2012 12:59
Get to it, Brian!
Brian February 27, 2012 15:32
What do you mean, Brian? I’m the real Brian, not that other fake Brian.
Brian S February 29, 2012 15:22
YEA!
Brian S March 1, 2012 15:14
Stop. Seriously.
Keyboard Hero February 27, 2012 11:10
I would love Josh Hamilton, but I don’t know what scares me more the injury risk or the Daryll Strawberry esqe relapse possibillity
Whitney Houstoff February 27, 2012 11:54
Josh Hamilton has nothing to worry about! My dealer said he orders half of what my usual order was. He won’t crack out till 50 at the earliest.
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There was be February 27, 2012 12:03
Even if we grant that these newfangled advance catching stats are correct, and Martin is, in fact, more valuable than previously understood, aren’t fielding statistics pretty unrealiable in terms of predicting future performance?
Also, what about the market for catchers? Does it reflect this new understanding. If Jose Molina–who seems to top these lists–was signed as a free agent today, would he be getting contracts that reflect his true value? In other words, if the market is still not smart enough to reward this previously hidden value, why should any team, even the Yanks, pay above the consensus?
Cliff Lee's Wife February 27, 2012 13:02
Why would you willingly go to the Yankees, Russell? Their fans will spit on you. I don’t know about you but I prefer to be vomited on, so I forced by pussy of a husband to sign with the Phillies.
Now where did I put my whip…
Bexy February 29, 2012 15:23
Whip me. In my ugly face. Make it hurt, man. Just make it bleed.
Ben Kaw Bawk Sr March 1, 2012 15:15
It would be a huge improvement
Duh February 27, 2012 13:19
The value of a catcher has nothing to do with what he hits, so it is meaningless. No, he doesn’t embarrass himself, and that’s all that matters. He. Calls. A. Good. Game. That would be his job. It takes a certain type of individual to stare down CC Sebathia and insist he throw a certain pitch he doesn’t want to. It’s like having a good caddy … no, he isn’t actually making the shot, but his value is considerably higher than pulling a club out of a bag. Whether your staff is young, or veterans, having a guy like Martin makes every one of them better. Those kids in the minors everyone raves about might be better defensively, or with a bat, but until they prove they can CALL A GAME, they are a gamble. Having said that, and considering the wear and tear and diminishing returns of the position, the two-year deal was right on.
dont buy it February 27, 2012 21:16
Im sorry but I just dont buy the way they figured out this new value. He frames pitches better than anyone? Thats really worth 2 wins ?? Please, hes an AWFUL hitter. How good was Jose Molina as a catcher in 09 yet we all agree the biggest reason we didnt make the postseason was because we lost Posada’s bat.
I dont like the defensive based metrics that have made things like WAR popular in recent years. They are incredibly flawed.
Even our own Brett Gardner, Im not saying he isnt the best defender in baseball but 50 percent better of a defender than ANYONE else in the game? Thats the ONLY reason hes supposedly a top ten player in the AL. Its nonsensical.
Wasnt one of the FOUNDATIONS of sabermetrics that offense >>>>>>defense? and now we are hailing guys based on flawed, biased, not concrete defensive metrics and framing pitches well is the most absurd of all.
dont buy it February 27, 2012 21:20
none of you phonies clamored to offer Jose Molina a huge contract after 09.
and if you think Martin is getting paid of this new stat youre delusional. Half these GMs still pay guys based on RBI you think theyre gonna pay on some non sensical stat that measure framing pitches well?
3/20 was more than fair and if Martin doesnt hit he wont even get that and he will be the sorry one, mark my words.
Big Bam February 28, 2012 05:24
didn’t we win it all in ’09?
Monteros non ability to catch is so overated February 28, 2012 15:16
sorry meant to say 08 on Molina
Cashman February 27, 2012 22:34
I don’t consider $20 mil for a guy who can’t hit after April a low ball offer
Please look at his stats after April – he’s fucking awful.
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