We were planning on writing this anyway, but with Mo gone, the calls for Hughes to the bullpen will likely intensify…
Last year at this time, there was much anxiety about Nick Swisher’s slow start. Despite carrying a .292 wOBA well into May, we assured you that all was well with Swish. He proceeded to go on a long tear (.460 wOBA in June, .389 in July, .402 in August) and finished with a healthy .358 wOBA on the year.
This time around, it’s Phil Hughes facing the brunt of the hysteria. Here’s Ken Davidoff, after Hughes’ second start:
When the ultra-careful Joe Girardi says, “We’re going to have to make an evaluation” of his starting rotation, as the manager did yesterday morning, then you know job security isn’t at a premium here…
…Something’s got to give. And Hughes, two starts into what was supposed to be his rebound season, is giving up way too much to the opposition. After getting hammered by the Angels for six runs, eight hits and two walks in 3 1/3 innings, the 25-year-old owns a 9.00 ERA in eight innings over two starts.
And the NY Times after his fifth start:
Hughes still was not good enough to win… [He] allowed four runs and four hits, including two home runs, in five and two-thirds innings.
And now ESPN tells us Hughes shouldn’t count on being in the rotation much longer:
With Andy Pettitte probably a little more than a week away and rookie David Phelps making his starting debut on Thursday in Kansas City, Hughes did not do much to firm up his grip on the No. 5 spot.
If Phelps is lights-out against the Royals, the rookie is not going earn another start? If Phelps pitches well, then Hughes might be taking his reborn “reliever mentality” to the bullpen or perhaps — but probably not — as far as Triple-A.
High ERA! Only One Wins!! Triple A!!!
Okay, let’s just take a deep breath. Yes, Hughes is 1-4 with a U-G-L-Y 7.48 ERA. But he’s got a solid alibi: a trifecta of bad luck with a .328 BABIP, 56.7% strand rate, and a 19.4% HR/FB rate.
Fact is, Phil Hughes is striking out 9.55 batters per nine, good for 13th-best among all MLB starters (min. 20 IP). His walk rate is a respectable 2.91 per 9, and his line drive rate represents one of the lowest of his career at 17.1%. Furthermore, he’s done all of this against above-average competition including the Rangers, Rays, and Orioles (2nd, 6th, and 8th in team wOBA).
There is one caveat with Hughes: his perennially high flyball rate combined with Yankee Stadium means he will give up his fair share of home runs. At this point, it appears that this who he is, and he will not be the ace the Yankees thought they had.
At minimum though, his peripherals show he can be a very effective back-end starter, and they also provide some hope that he can be a #3 guy. Again, the strikeouts are there and the crazy-low stand rate (9th-lowest in MLB) is really juicing his ERA.
With Pineda going down, the Yankees need to maximize Hughes’ upside by giving him every chance to fulfill his potential as a starter. That potential means he should remain ahead of Phelps in the rotation pecking order. And there’s simply no way he should be wasted in Triple-A.



51 Comments
New Metrics May 4, 2012 05:15
the high strikeouts is just an indication that batters know his stuff lacks movement & they rather take a chance at the HR than walk.
for crying out loud the angels fucked him up. the angels have been shut out 5 times already but got way fat off phil.
package him up to mets for santana
The guy who thinks Nomaas has no clue May 4, 2012 07:36
I agree but not for santana, if you can get a couple of minor leaguers for him you do it
with that said, he should have a couple of more starts
Serious question May 4, 2012 09:11
@New Metrics — Have you spoken with any major league hitters?
New Metrics May 4, 2012 15:34
Yes.
Joe Páwlikowski May 4, 2012 15:36
Can you give me your thoughts and notes so I can steal it?
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 4, 2012 16:09
I think I left my little hat that stays on my head miraculously at your mom’s house. Can you get it for me?
Binder Say's May 5, 2012 06:28
Nice, but a little obscure.
Ki m Last May 8, 2012 10:22
Hat lumps
Frank Footer May 4, 2012 05:36
This is the saddest news I’ve gotten since my grandfather died.
Good bye.
Brett Pedroia May 4, 2012 10:21
Did he touch you too?
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 5, 2012 16:54
Did I kill your grandfather?
TSJC May 8, 2012 10:23
Let’s rape him like we did in the joint.
Vincent Vega May 4, 2012 05:44
That’s a bold statement!
The Wolf May 4, 2012 10:21
Aren’t you dead?
Brian S. May 4, 2012 15:33
Am I?
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 4, 2012 16:07
After I raped you, didn’t I kill you?
Mr. Eko May 5, 2012 12:31
I think it’s time to move on.
Brian S. May 8, 2012 10:24
After me.
Tom Lin May 4, 2012 06:57
I agree with you, but the hitters were
0.298/0.365/0.617 against him, WOW. Just like that he faced the line up with 9 Albert Pujols(Last year). And that wasn’t related with luck, that was related with fucking hard hit balls. Anyway, I still expect he can give us 150 inning and 4.7x-like era. That was a really high expectation,though.
Amare May 4, 2012 07:38
Typical NY fans, you make them relevant again and they go on and want you gone when you allow a couple of hits ot you hit a glass door
Kevin Brown May 5, 2012 08:02
Amen brother!
Cash Money May 4, 2012 08:54
Is there any advanced metrics for number of pitches thrown per inning? Any reason why Hughes is always up around 100 after the 4th inning? How about an advanced Eat Shit metric for number of Relief Pitches used per game started?
Dusty Baker May 4, 2012 10:23
Pitch count? What are you a witch?
Phil Hughes May 4, 2012 10:04
Don’t worry, I’ll be gone in two years, guys. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to do my best throwing batting practice imitation except during real games!
Even my mother knows that I suck.
IPK May 4, 2012 10:24
Can’t wait for you to resurrect your career in the West bro! Minimum of 6 more All-Star games after you leave that mediocre pitching factory of the Bronx!
Betsy the Hughes Shill from LoHud May 4, 2012 19:40
Even I gave up on Phil this season!!!
Jim Leyritz's Cellmate May 4, 2012 10:21
I’m more than happy with Hughes being a solid 4 or 5 guy – the team needs one of those just as badly as they need a lineup that can score a fucking run once in a while.
If you take Hughes for what he is and stop benchmarking him to all of the early-career hype, he can be just fine for us. Until contract time comes again…
Mel Hall's Cellmate May 4, 2012 10:27
He might be a 4/5 guy for a crappy team. Is that what you want to be compared to? You are a chump.
You gonna eat your fruit cocktail? I got a pack of smokes if you toss my salad. I heard you are the best.
Jim Leyritz's Cellmate May 4, 2012 12:41
Damn straight I’m the best!
Seriously though, right now I’ll take a solid 4 or 5 (hopefully Hughes becomes that as NoMaas predicts) over the nothing we have right now. Maybe that will change with call-ups or acquisitions, but as it stands right now, our rotation is… well, crappy.
I would love nothing more than to find gold in our farm system (Manny, et al), but I will admit that I’ve lost a bit of faith in our own hyping.
TSJC May 4, 2012 15:50
I’d make you both my punks. Have you doing my laundry and shizit. You know whats good for you bitches.
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 4, 2012 16:04
You’d make a very nice wife TSJC. I will make you dress in pink skirts.
Moshe Mandel May 4, 2012 10:47
Where the white women at?
Brian S. May 4, 2012 11:17
It’s not just Hughes. Our entire rotation is suffering from high BABIPs because our defense has been awful. And of course, some bad luck to go with it as well (think of all the ground ball hits Nova has given up for instance). We need Gardner and Swisher ASAP and, I love Nunez, but maybe a utility infielder that is a better fielder than Jeter.
Brian S. May 4, 2012 15:33
Hughes needs to pitch the 7th. He stinks.
Swiffer Wet-Jet May 4, 2012 19:37
In my opinion Hughes should be the mop-up man…
Pineda's shoulder May 4, 2012 11:47
I think I’m in better shape than the season so far.
DormantUlcer May 4, 2012 12:53
His K/9 is so high cuz he’s only lasting 3 innings a game. He’s only lasting 3 innings a game cuz he’s throwing so many pitches trying to strike every batter out. You can’t go into the 5th at 100 pitches every start. He’s a good kid with good stuff, but he’s having a tough time figuring out how to get hitters out without an 8-pitch at-bat.
I fail to see the correlation between the two, but the fact is in 2009 he went into the ‘pen, lit shit up, and came back in 2010 as an effective starter. Maybe he does need to go back and get his confidence up, or whatever. He’s too good for Triple-A, it’s a waste of time for everyone, he won’t learn anything or figure anything out.
Jay Destro May 4, 2012 15:35
Why don’t you get down on your hands and knees and blow him?
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 4, 2012 16:05
Since that’s on your mind. Come over here pussy-boy.
Human piece of shit May 5, 2012 05:57
Dude, you are so awesome.
TSJC May 8, 2012 10:28
There’s only room for one HNIC in this muthafucka joint
Dave Eiland May 4, 2012 14:35
I wouldn’t want Hughes in my rotation. His fastball has no movement. Its straight as my dick. And almost as soft.
Matzo May 4, 2012 15:34
He has to beat out Phelps for the job now. Not about stats.
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 4, 2012 16:06
Put them in cell with a hidden shiv an give job to whoever come out.
Adebisi's Hat May 4, 2012 19:35
How the fuck did I ever stay on his head?
Adele May 4, 2012 17:08
I set FIRE, to the RAIN!
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 5, 2012 16:55
Someone should have set fire to you appetite bitch.
Men's Wearhouse May 4, 2012 19:34
You’re going to like the way Hughes looks, I guarantee it.
Buck Showalter May 5, 2012 05:02
Hughes to the ‘pen? Disrespectful to Flanney.
Simon Adebisi from Oz May 5, 2012 16:56
Flanny still owes me drug money. That means you are good for it.
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